Posts by The Marvster

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Conditioned to fail

by Jordandemm in

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just want to say hi and a big thank you to all that post in this site.

it has been extremely tough waking up as a born.

but in slowly removing any doubts about leaving this man made religion.

The Marvster

I agree with what OneEyedJoe said ; Making normal friends seems (to me) to be a much slower process

I started making friends about 2 years ago and after some attempts where I had some good short term friends but had to move away, I have found 2 'very precious' friends... and though I don't see them as much as I wish, they continually baffle me with their kindness and openess and genuinness (the watchtower lies about wordly people)... it is definitely a slower process but very worth the effort...

Also I think that the way friends are made in the org can MASK personality traits that might be an obstacle to making friends. I mean, the org brought us 'automatic' friends so in some cases there wasn't much long-term effort involved, so you may not have noticed, for example, if you have minor quirks that are tripping you up... I only realised one or two of these myself after an honest look in the mirror... I found that once you start getting to know yourself, what YOU like and don't like (not what the WT tells you to like or dislike), you can start attracting the kind of person who, well, is attracted to you as a person...

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Are you angry for having been a JW?

by Half banana in

i remember seeing the ex-jws parading around outside the assembly like lepers holding placards of hate.

we were the righteous and enlightened ones... and they were lost in outer darkness.

just dont look at them was the standard response to their unwelcome presence..

The Marvster

Recently I have experienced lots of intense anger here are some reasons.

Finding out about the 'quote mining' and using it as suedo - evidence for god's existence in the 'evolution or creation' book... I just looked at the first chapter and searched out all the references, then the anger got so overwhelming I had to stop before the 'cardiac arrest'

The biggest one though was finding out about all the other 'end of the world' predictions even before 1914, and then post 1914 predictions, and the fake 607 date.... which made me realise that the whole 'truth' that was hanging upon 1919 and Jesus apparently finding the FDS distributing truth could not have possibly happened.... and seeing that for me 1914 was the linchpin upon which I believed everything.... EVERYTHING I EVER BELIEVED WAS FALSE, AND I GAVE 30 YEARS OF MY GOD DAMN LIFE FOR THIS... so yeah... quite a bit of anger here, but I understand it's part of the process so I just sit with it and am grateful I found out before I wasted more years..

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Name Things You Can't Do If You Are JW...or not supposed to do

by minimus in

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witnesses are not supposed to stand for the national anthem but can stand for a flag salute.. you can't say bless you if someone sneezes, good luck!, or " you too" if someone says, happy holidays.. it is a religion of cannot dos.

everything is pagan and worldly.. what are things that are unacceptable to jehovah's witnesses that really are no big deal to everyone else?

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The Marvster

No dances involving gyrating hips.

in the UK, no 18 rated films.

No looking if a couple kiss during a film (in fact, turn it off otherwise you'll get aroused)

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Name Things You Can't Do If You Are JW...or not supposed to do

by minimus in

jw
friends

witnesses are not supposed to stand for the national anthem but can stand for a flag salute.. you can't say bless you if someone sneezes, good luck!, or " you too" if someone says, happy holidays.. it is a religion of cannot dos.

everything is pagan and worldly.. what are things that are unacceptable to jehovah's witnesses that really are no big deal to everyone else?

?.

The Marvster

@ vidiot.. thanks, will take a look at that link in a few days (I can only take so much anger at borg antics, so will wait until my current episode fizzles out)

@ FayeDunaway, re: 'juices' ..... Absolutely priceless, lol x 1000

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Name Things You Can't Do If You Are JW...or not supposed to do

by minimus in

jw
friends

witnesses are not supposed to stand for the national anthem but can stand for a flag salute.. you can't say bless you if someone sneezes, good luck!, or " you too" if someone says, happy holidays.. it is a religion of cannot dos.

everything is pagan and worldly.. what are things that are unacceptable to jehovah's witnesses that really are no big deal to everyone else?

?.

The Marvster

Dissillusioned2, very good point..

had a conversation this morning with my colleagues, a doctor and 2 nurses about what JW's 'don't do'... The doctor said that he knew about the witnesses and no blood stance.. and he knew a bit about the no eating blood which I explained further; then he said..

Oh!, do Jehovah's Witnesses eat only 'Halal or Kosher' meat? KABOOM!

he hit the nail right on the head and I said 'you got it right mate, my ex circle of JW friends NEVER ate hallal'.... that doctor used critical thinking in a split second and I loved it... I was around the truth for 30 years and never thought of something so simple...

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The Heartless JW

by babygirl30 in

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friends

soooo...i have recently been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, and am scared out of my mind.

in a weak moment, i called my parents and my mom answered.

i start crying as i tell her about my disease, and this woman says to me:.

The Marvster

FayDunaway...

wow... that was devastatingly beautiful logic.... of course, the Samaritans were despised by the Jews who obviously felt they would be currupting themselves but associating in anyway with Samaritans... But what was Jesus teaching with that story?

"screw your religious doctrin, the guy's bloody sick, help him, it's f***ing human" (I'm using artistic license here, but you get the point)

Stuff like this convinces me that JW's aren't really following the bible....

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New light from GB member David Splane!

by Island Man in

in the latest jw broadcast splane is quoted as saying:.

"suppose there was a man who died 10 minutes before joseph was born.

would he be part of joseph's generation?

The Marvster

Prologos....

wow this is getting longer and longer... so technically the big 'A' that should be 'just around the corner could be technically 2214 if we're counting from 1914, or is it 1919...

I'm now totally lost

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New light from GB member David Splane!

by Island Man in

in the latest jw broadcast splane is quoted as saying:.

"suppose there was a man who died 10 minutes before joseph was born.

would he be part of joseph's generation?

The Marvster

@The Listener, I was sort of responding to the 'nitpicking' comment (I might have misinterpreted that comment though), as Mr Splane did seem to be being very specific himself... and yeah that's definitely minute detail there... how on earth did he extract that precise idea from the scriptures? it seems to appear that anybody who looks up a few scriptures and thinks about them in the context of what Mr Splane is saying will realise he's taking liberties...

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New light from GB member David Splane!

by Island Man in

in the latest jw broadcast splane is quoted as saying:.

"suppose there was a man who died 10 minutes before joseph was born.

would he be part of joseph's generation?

The Marvster

I wonder if he might not have meant a 'grown up adult living a full life'.. I think he meant 'just being alive', otherwise why would he talk about someone being born only 10 minutes 'after' Joseph's death?... isn't he implying that if that person was born 11 minutes earlier, they 'would have' been part of Joseph's generation? that person wouldn't have to be a grown adult to be part of Joseph's generation by Mr Splane's reasoning, just a few minutes old...

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New light from GB member David Splane!

by Island Man in

in the latest jw broadcast splane is quoted as saying:.

"suppose there was a man who died 10 minutes before joseph was born.

would he be part of joseph's generation?

The Marvster

Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel...

does the term 'Joseph's Generation' mean that 'the generation' actually 'belonged to Joseph'? and what if Joseph had only lived as a child and died at 5 years old, would that mean that a generation can be only 5 years long? Also is he saying that if joseph lived to 100 and a person was born 0.5 seconds before Joseph died, then that person was part of Joseph's generation and so, if THAT person lived to 100, a generation would be 200 years? and since when does someone, when talking about their generation actaully expect anyone to think they could mean up to 200 years?... I mean, my parents are in their 70's now, so when I speak of my parents' generation would you really think I'm talking about people going back as far as perhaps more than 70 years before their birth, because people older than 70 when my parents were born were part of their generation? That would mean that people who lived perhaps before 1875 are part of my parents' generation? what if someone was 100 years old and still alive when my parents were born? 1845? So we're in the same generation as people living in 1845? come on.. is that what Jesus really meant by THIS GENERATION? I mean, how long was the generation Jesus spoke about in the first century? and why would he tell them to 'keep awake' if he meant 150+ years by a generation?....

this is the problem I have with these ideas, upon questioning them so many more questions come up... of course the G.O.D have an answer for everything and would be able to wriggle their way out of any apparent holes in the reasoning..